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- best first five seconds of an episode ever. Cheeky fuckers! (also, it's awesome that this show could actually kill off its main character. Very awesome indeed!) Of course, they still could. This could be the best fakeout ever. Fake out here, fake out there, and by Christmas we've got a new Doctor (again).

- so the key, it's a doomsday key?

- Oh, like Jack would not hug someone.

- MICKEY AND JACKIE! Now we have the whole set. Yay!

- Nuremberg. Is she going to resurrect the horde of Nazi scientists who worked on seekrit supernatural research during the war?

- GERMAN DALEKS!! But why aren't they translated? Has Martha been out of the TARDIS too long? And for that matter, why didn't the Jidoon translate in last episode?

- Rose still has that lispy overbite thing. She didn't always have that lispy overbite thing, did she?

- the Daleks live in a Borg sphere? Ah! First Contact. AH! Patrick Stewart and David Tennant in Hamlet! Man, is stalking lining up at the box office at 2am going to be enough time? Against the Star Trek fans and the Doctor Who fans, I don't think I'll have a hope. Yes, I am both, and yes, I am considering sitting outside the box office at 2am but SHUT UP I'M NORMAL. Besides, it's research.

- oooh, Donna's staring of into the distance with her tiny eyes and her - OMG - brown leather jacket. She's a Browncoat!

- if they're just calling for the Doctor to come out, why don't the others wait behind?

- hahaha it's the heart of the TARDIS. Beating...

- Time Lords treachery!

- HAHAHHAH they've got an evil supervillain screen to SHOW DONNA'S DEMISE. HAahahaah.

- oooh, the hand. OMG. NAKED DAVID TENNANT. (also, omg double Doctor). okay so if there are two Doctors, does it mean that one of them is going to take the baby space ship, get the girl and then die in a radiation accident, while the other broods aboard the mother ship and makes life miserable for the rest of the crew.

- HA! "Playthings of Davros!" I love Daleks. Cybermen just want to upgrade things but Daleks, oh, Daleks.... Daleks have all the best totalitarian jargon.

- Wow, [livejournal.com profile] thucyken, you were right about the Donna being the Doctor's mother. Just not, you know, in the conventional sense of motherhood.

- screencap time!


- ahahahh oh they're having so much fun. you know, actors on fun shows say they've got the best job in the world. I can believe that, but I'll put "critic" in as a close second because the critics/academics get to watch the actors as our job. I mean, I was sitting around watching old DW episodes for fun, then I took that music class on a whim, now I'm going to an international conference to be the expert in the sound design of early DW. This is way better than working at the bank. Anyway. Back to the episode.

- Okay, so if everyone tells Martha not to use the key, why would she still go? OH GOD WHAT IS IT!?

- I do like the Martha Jones: Commando thing. It would be cooler if she could work as part of a team, but it's nice that there are people who don't need to rush to the Doctor and ask what to do next. Martha is so cool.

- HA love how Rose pokes the force field in the background.

- Okay, it's nice that Rose is back. :D

- oooh, Doctor's children? Oh, metaphorical children. Also, why didn't the Doctor pick up on the "one of them will die"? Or does he think that Donna is already dead (he wouldn't if he didn't feel the TARDIS die)?

- Rage of the Time Lord sounds like it should have been a Swedish art film from the 1960s.

- ahahaaahahaah "reality bomb" ahahahahhha I love Daleks.

- oop. Bye Jackie? Oh, not so much. Hoorah! But now it'll be another half-hour before they can use the tech to save the day.

- if Earth hadn't been one of the 27 planets, would the Doctor have noticed in time? Well, in time he would have noticed, I guess, but would there have been, um, sufficient temporality to do anything about it?

- Ooh, he mentioned a rift. That reminds me: how're Gwen and Ianto doing?

- Cheesecake, beefcake. Captain Jack is a full meal.

- "What?! Who invented that?!" Oh the Doctor would be fun to watch science fiction with. If only because he'd find it hilarious when the unprecedented apocalyptic event presents itself and the computer systems are programmed to react to that specific unprecedented event. Oh, we can dial an eighth chevron, who knew? Well, the computers did. Anyway. Back to Martha blowing up the world.

- ah, cool. All "the Doctor's children" have become self-sacrificing mass murderers. I mean - blowing up the entire Earth because you've judged there's no hope left? Sacrificing a planet to stop reality from unwinding... man, we are in the middle of Time War II.

- okay Davros, exposition the hell out of that last point. Thanks, WE GOT IT.

- screencap time (acting? or thinking about lunch?):


- wow, that's a lot of flashback death. And right to the beginning of the new series, too.

- ahahah Supreme Dalek is awesome. Fuck all this posturing, let's just transmat everyone here to keep an eye on them. Hoorah!

- Every time I hear it... "reality bomb" is hilarious. One thing they haven't explained is why the Daleks aren't going to be affected. Or do they want to be affected?

- wow, that was an exceptionally pathetic rescue attempt. Or pathetic-looking.

- ahahaha I like technobabble Donna.

- "Skinny boys in suits!" HA! She's got TWO little brothers to boss around now.

- so possibly it was a pathetic attempt and not a pathetic-looking attempt. If it took Davros's zap to activate the Time Lord stuff, then they couldn't have known going in what was going to happen. So it's all a happy coincidence?

- Jack: "I can't tell you what I'm thinking right now."

- and there's lots of screaming and explosions. Not a lot of running down corridors, though. What's up with that?

- Yay! "I name you Destroyer of Worlds!"

- Yes, crazy Dalek, we know SOMEONE IS STILL GOING TO DIE THANK YOU. Couldn't River Song drop in and yell about spoilers for a while? Plus there's still 20 minutes left. What, is the Master going to show up?

- wow, crowded around that TARDIS console. Tennant's stand-in is earning is pay today...

- also: this is crack. Cracky cracky crack fic of the crackiest kind.

- HAHAHAH finally the joke about Eve Myles.

- Wow, the TARDIS is meant to have 6 pilots? That's new. That means the crew complement of an average TARDIS would have been more than one person. Hadn't they always implied that it would be one Time Lord = one TARDIS?

- Nice to have that reminder that Martha's a soldier now.

- How come it's okay to break the walls of time and space now?

- AHAHAH awesome ending? Give Rose a human Doctor. How is this even reasonable? Rose gets the knock-off?

- OH THAT WAS SO WELL-PLAYED. Have Blue-Suit be the one to say the words.

- Oops. Donna a-splode. Wait. If Donna's a-sploding, what about Blue-Suit?

- Sucks that Donna gets all reset.

- So that's the true legacy of the Doctor: if you don't die or go amnesiac-y, you get lasting friendships that were, um, forged in fire.

- AHAHAH - accent spotting, when he said "Still that's fine." Tee hee.

- Poor sodden Doctor... it's okay, you'll find someone new to travel with. In... a few years. Who-rah!


Updating as I watch - whee!

ETA: Done! Ha, fun episode. :D Like, seriously fun. I haven't had that much fun watching a season finale in a while. For most of the shows I watch the season finale is where the writers bring a big bag of epic to the table and wallow in it. It gets sticky. It's not pretty.

But Doctor Who, on the other hand, brings the bag of epic and has a blast with it. And why can't that be the case more often. Yes, you can leave a cliffhanger and yes, you can wrap up plot points and yes, score some woobie-points, but why can't you also make your audience grin the entire time?

Good one, Russell T - a fine farewell episode.

ETA2: Okay, so the Rose Thing and the Donna Thing were weird.

1. Rose Thing: As Farscape proved rather conclusively, having two copies of the hero so that the Girl can have one and the Other Guy doesn't get domesticated is a Bad Idea. At least Farscape's point over that arc was that it's bad (a bitch for the survivor, at least) and maybe it would have been better if they hadn't found the Other John in time. In DW's case, it's a sloppy, sloppy piece of storytelling.

Rose gets a Doctor-copy and the real Doctor gets to continue moping about the universe, meddling. The status quo remains the same, but Rose gets to settle down with a man and "have a life together" or whatever that means. Without the constant danger, without the ability to run off at the end of an adventure... who is this man they've dumped with her? I can see him getting bored and evil very quickly. The John Smith from "Human Nature" was a-okay with domesticity, but the half-human Doctor isn't that guy. He's partially that guy, but not entirely.

But in the world of the show, it's okay. Rose has her Doctor, therefore she's happy, right? The two Doctors, in a show of transparent manipulation (see above in the babble), gave Rose exactly what she needed (a Doctor) and wanted to hear (I assume, him telling her he loves her). Girl has Boy. Now, settle down and be happy about it. Go... make quarter-Time Lord babies or something.

2) Donna Thing: she's back to being boring trash. For her, who cares? She can't remember. For the Doctor it's worse than having her dead because he can't run back to her for help or rely on her to turn up at the last minute in an epic finale as part of the posse ex machina. It's really up to Donna's mother now, I suppose: Donna can live a desperately unhappy life believing every minute that she's worthless, or her mother can stop nagging her constantly and try to help Donna build a little self-respect.

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Date: 2008-07-06 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wicked-g.livejournal.com
But now Donna's, well...dead. Well, the Donna we know, the Donna we grew to love. Gonzo.

I miss her.

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Date: 2008-07-06 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naturelf.livejournal.com
I miss her too. I loved her big-sister vibe and her big heart and her absolute joy at doing extarordinary things (Rose and Martha both were far more young and cynical)... and Catherine Tate is hilarious.

But.

Even though she's going to live a horrible life full of temping, trashy gossip (as opposed to the classy kind) and a crazy family, she gets to live. Ish. She's not like Rose, who has loved and lost (and gained a crazy evil genocidal manipulative freako clone version of the man she loves); Donna doesn't know that she's lost, and in some ways that isn't so bad. If she doesn't know what she's missing... she'll have to be like the rest of us, filling her days with the banal and ordinary.

SUCH A GOOD EPISODE. There were at least twenty full minutes of giddy silly fun, and oh the Daleks! I love Daleks.

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Date: 2008-07-06 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wicked-g.livejournal.com
Ooh, true, true. But he had to let go of what was possibly the best companion ever. And not only was she the best, she was the best for him.

You. Are. Obsessed. With Daleks. I feel the need for an intervention sometime soon...

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Date: 2008-07-07 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firstgold.livejournal.com
Nope - not allowed. No Dalek interventions because the daleks are AWESOME!

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Date: 2008-07-08 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naturelf.livejournal.com
All hail the Supreme Dalek!

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Date: 2008-07-10 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naturelf.livejournal.com
I think I love daleks because they're all about destroying everything. Most villains of that kind would be all "I DESTROY EVERYTHING SO THERE'S JUST ME LEFT BWAHA" but the daleks just want the whole universe to end, who cares if it takes them with it. Sure, they'll get wiped out, too. But they're okay with that.

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Date: 2008-07-08 07:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naturelf.livejournal.com
Am not obsessed with daleks! ...maybe if they weren't such gleeful megalomaniacs they wouldn't be so fun. Plus, the writers do seem to enjoy writing dalek stories, so it's quite easy to love-to-hate the characters.

I agree completely that she was the best for him. He doesn't need someone to fall in love with him ('cause then he burns up stars to say goodbye, hello irresponsible) and being the object of unrequited crushes doesn't allow for critical reflection. Donna always (*sniff*, past tense!) big-sistered the hell out of the Doctor, which was quite refreshing. Every demi-god needs a big sister.

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Date: 2008-07-07 02:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firstgold.livejournal.com
okay so if there are two Doctors, does it mean that one of them is going to take the baby space ship, get the girl and then die in a radiation accident, while the other broods aboard the mother ship and makes life miserable for the rest of the crew.

Oh snap.

And Donna .... the mind wipe was harsh.

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Date: 2008-07-08 07:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naturelf.livejournal.com
Unnecessary, too. Why did her mind have to melt? What narrative purpose did it serve? The Doctor doesn't need to end up alone at the end of every series, and there are better ways to write a character off a show that palliative amnesia.

And if you're going to re-use an sf trope, have the kindness to bring something else to the table, eh? At least Crichton didn't have near-infinite cosmic powers and the ability to destroy worlds. I'm a little scared about what this dimension's Doctor will do now that he's alone again.

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Date: 2008-07-07 02:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firstgold.livejournal.com
Also - I Love the Whole World (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1J_MUUQLlw). Oh Youtube.

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Date: 2008-07-08 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] naturelf.livejournal.com
AH! [livejournal.com profile] wicked_g just showed me the original. Oh, DW!

Jack makes a fantastic whale. Tee hee!
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