"Hiro? You look *bad-ass*."

[charloween]

Heroes,

1. Evidently, you stop an exploding man by throwing him into space and letting him explode in the atmosphere. Unfortunately, New York state has a missing Congressman and no hope of producing a body to provide any kind of closure. (And watching this while there're Victoria Day fireworks going off outside? Weird, man.)
2. All that stuff about Peter having heart? Not so much with the relevant or mattering. In the end, it was up to Nathan to save the world. Ma Petrelli was right, but maybe not for the reasons she thought.
3. Milo V had great hair this ep.
4. Sylar's on his way to becoming this series' Spike: the big bad of the early-on eps, and then... team player and Claire's fuck-buddy by the end of the run? (It's a good thing Whedon has nothing to do with Heroes. :P)
5. NOAH!!!

Also? How much of this episode was straight from fic? Honestly!?

RIP all you dead characters, I love every one of you.

It's been a great run, eh? Way to go, everyone involved.

The DVDs will be out August 28! Pre-order now!

EDIT: I have Enrique Iglasias's song "Hero" STUCK IN MY HEAD.

Now would you die for the one you love?
Hold me in your arms tonight?

I can be you hero baby
I can kiss away the pain okay, maybe not on screen, but you KNOW what's going on...
I will stand by you forever
You can take my breath away... WHEN WE BOTH A-SPLODE

*sniffles*

Also? What the HELL was with Peter's "Oh, Nathan's NEVER let me down"? Idiot child. Like when he lied to the press about your "suicide attempt" or when he DROPPED YOU A BUNCH OF STORIES SO YOU WERE HOSPITALIZED. *headdesk* Stupid, stupid Peter. I lost a lot of respect for whichever writer was in charge of Peter's character right then. (But... Milo V's pretty hair makes up for a lot.)

Comments

[underhand-glory.livejournal.com]

!!!!!!!!

1. THEY'RE IN THE CARIBBEAN. DUH!!!!!

!!!!!!!!

[naturelf.livejournal.com]

With pirates? Captain Sparrow and Congressman Petrelli team up and/or face off (with Sparrow, one finds oneself doing both at the same time) ...with Will T. and Pete P. playing sidekicks?

[siskaren.livejournal.com]

I've got a theory about Peter and Nathan (especially since the idea of them both being dead totally bums me out). I think Peter pulled away from Nathan - and we saw in "Hiros" that Nathan (and therefore Peter as well) can fly pretty damn fast, so I think Peter could definitely get far enough away from Nathan (and fast enough) to avoid killing him. Also, we saw in "Company Man" that Ted could survive going nuclear (plus in "Five Years Gone" Peter was supposed to have gone nuclear, yet obviously survived), so I am positive that Peter had to have survived. Plus, I recently read an article about the guy who did the artwork for the show, and he's quoted as saying he has a job next season. Well, with Isaac and Sylar both clearly dead, who else could he be doing the artwork for but Peter? Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it. *g*

Ummm...

[philthe25th.livejournal.com]

Sylar? Clearly dead?

Not quite.

Re: Ummm...

[naturelf.livejournal.com]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeah, my thoughts exactly.

[naturelf.livejournal.com]

the idea of them both being dead totally bums me out
Me too! I'll subscribe to any theory that lets them both survive. Because they're both pretty. However, considering that TPTB didn't seem to know what to do with them for the last six episodes (they seemed to be spinning in circles: "Nathan omg make a choice" and "Peter omg gonna explode maybe" doesn't give characters room to do all that much), I can't think of how they'd be useful or how they could develop the characters any more. It hurts to say so, but I doubt we'll see much of our Petrelli brothers.

On the other hand, there's no reason the explosion should have been fatal for Peter (because there's no good reason why it should have killed him, except maybe if he was blown apart and all the parts got lost). Nor should it have been fatal for Nathan, because an ex-soldier would know better than to hold a live grenade in his fist. He'd drop Peter and bug the hell out of there to save himself, unless... unless Nathan's a suicidal coward who was looking for an easy way to abdicate his responsiblities and avoid the consequences of his decisions. Which doesn't sound too much like our Nathan. (Though, after the nothing character we've been watching these last five weeks, who knows?!) As for how they'll explain their missing Congressman... who knows.

Isaac's clearly dead, that's for sure, but Sylar? They took great pains to show Sylar lying there... and lying there... and still lying there... but when they went back to show him again for the umteenth time still lying there, they gave us a blood stain and a bloody trail leading to a convenient manhole cover. He's so not dead. He survived a fall that killed Peter, so he's pretty resiliant.

As for Tim Sale's continuing employment... they've got the Kensei plot that needs illustration, and a new tie-in site with Hiro's dad has other hero art (with dudes like Jason, Crazy Horse, Thor...) that could work Sale in.

While I want the Petrellis to survive (pretties!) the way they'd been written in the last part of the season makes me think they may kill them off because TPTB don't know what to do with them. Sigh.

[siskaren.livejournal.com]

Nor should it have been fatal for Nathan, because an ex-soldier would know better than to hold a live grenade in his fist

Yeah, but since Nathan had finally decided to do the right thing, and not let Peter explode in the middle of New York City, it doesn't really make sense that he would then change his mind once they were far enough up that no one on the ground would get hurt. And I definitely can't see Peter allowing Nathan to get killed.

While I want the Petrellis to survive (pretties!) the way they'd been written in the last part of the season makes me think they may kill them off because TPTB don't know what to do with them. Sigh.

The thing is though, it seems to me that they left a lot of unanswered questions regarding Mrs. Petrelli, and I think it could be interesting to see her reaction to things not turning out the way she expected.

but when they went back to show him again for the umteenth time still lying there, they gave us a blood stain and a bloody trail leading to a convenient manhole cover.

Oh, I missed that...

He survived a fall that killed Peter, so he's pretty resiliant.

Not to mention being shot multiple times by both Matt and Mr. Bennet, and who-knows-what they did to him at the Company. And to be honest, I didn't think Hiro had killed him at first, but when he finally dropped, I was pretty convinced. I was just thinking, though. You'd think Mr. Bennet would've made sure he was dead after what happened at the Company when the doctor said he was dead when he obviously wasn't.

[naturelf.livejournal.com]

And I definitely can't see Peter allowing Nathan to get killed.

And their deaths weren't nearly grand enough. Nor did we see corpses. Ted, Isaac, even Thompson had bodies left behind. I've seen enough X-Files to know not to believe a death until I've seen a corpse (...even after that, too).

it seems to me that they left a lot of unanswered questions regarding Mrs. Petrelli,

Agreed - but the... SPOILER ALERT



...plan for the second season is to explain some of the previous generation, so they don't technically need her sons there to talk about her.


/SPOILER ALERT


Maybe next season we'll get an answer for why the heck she was shoplifting in the first episode, because that totally doesn't jive with what we've found out about her.

Oh, I missed that...

Heh, yeah. That's my Sylar, living in the sewers with the rats and gators.

You'd think Mr. Bennet would've made sure he was dead after what happened at the Company when the doctor said he was dead when he obviously wasn't.

Bennet obviously never watched XF, either.

[siskaren.livejournal.com]

I've seen enough X-Files to know not to believe a death until I've seen a corpse (...even after that, too).

Ever seen MacGyver? There was a character on that show who didn't know how to stay dead, either. *g*

Maybe next season we'll get an answer for why the heck she was shoplifting in the first episode, because that totally doesn't jive with what we've found out about her.

Yeah, I've just been wondering about that. Since she obviously wanted Nathan to win, why do something that could risk it like that?

[naturelf.livejournal.com]

I have, but not enough to suss out any continuity. I really liked the episode with RDA vs. laser-shooting heat-seeking killer robots in a bunker. But then, I’m a sucker for killer robots.

And on the shoplifting; my only guess is that it’s the writers changing their minds about what they wanted to do with her. Otherwise, it would have to be part of her master plan. Getting the boys out of Nathan’s campaign office for some reason? I could see it as her forcing Nathan to use up his political capital to bury the story, which would then make him turn to Linderman for funding and support. It fits, but it would be nice if the show said something one way or the other.

[aoshi.livejournal.com]

Totally agree on Milo's hair tonight. As much as I am not a Peter fan, his hair was really pretty. D: Which is awkward to admit.

*pokes fingers together*

[naturelf.livejournal.com]

I kept saying to Phil that Peter's hair was really nice. Full of body. Nicely shaped. Phil kept saying to me that he wanted to watch the episode, so would I shut up already. :)

[jissa.livejournal.com]

Hey! Hey! I feel the urge to defend my precious Whedon here! There's a lot more to William the Bloody Awful Poet than that! And to Buffy! . . .

Right, sorry about that. Just had to get it out of my system and all that. ;)

I actually hadn't really watched any Heroes since the fifth episode (I think that's where I stopped, I'm not actually sure . . .), so I recorded the episodes as they aired on the SciFi channel on Saturday and marathoned them on Sunday and Monday. The result is a Heroes-full-Jissa. My main thought is: Why the hell did Nathan have to do that?! Claire could have shot Peter, peter would have stopped exploding and then healed. GRRR!

[naturelf.livejournal.com]

True, but the ultimate trajectory of the character was Big Bad to Big Fluffy. That said, my absolute favourite moment of that series is in the mess of slo-mo at the end of "The Gift". It's the one longish (in distance, not time) shot of Spike, completely bowed by grief. There are scenes I might like better (Oz! Oz! Oz Oz Oz!), or laugh harder at when I'm watching them, but for single moments it's that one shot of Spike and all it represents for him as a character and for Buffy and for how the relationships on the show changed and grew. Moments can be so painfully eloquent.

Also? Yowza, that's a lot of Heroes! I think the only way they can justify the Petrelli brothers' suicide pact is by suggesting that it's the only way to stop Peter completely. After he healed he'd still have Ted's splody power, and there's no guarantees he'd be able to control it without Chris Eccleston there to beat it out of him.

However. They didn't sell me on how dangerous Peter is. Ted blew up a house, future!Peter blew up a city, but this Peter just passes out a lot. If they'd thrown in one scene (just one scene) where Peter makes something small explode, then I could have believed. Show me he's a danger, don't keep telling me so. It wouldn't have to be a house or a building. A car, or something, and then someone'd whip out a gun to take him temporarily out of commission. As it was, they ran around for twelve episodes with only a time-traveler, a drugged-out vision and a fever dream as proof. When they could've blown more shit up!! Way to drop the ball, Heroes.

Other than that, what'd you think of the show?

[jissa.livejournal.com]

Plus, future Peter blew up one city, and then did no more damage at all after that. Clearly he learned to control it, so it really ended up seeming like everything would have been jim dandy if Claire had just shot Peter.

[naturelf.livejournal.com]

EXACTLY. I hate it when writers don't even watch their own show. Of course, the only character who would have known any of this was Hiro, but if everyone in the audience knew... argh. No excuse.